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2011-02-08 11-55-18

Poll: The L Word Why do most lesbians hate it? It doesn't bother me so much but then again I'm new to all this...still half in the closet and all. Just curious to see what everyone thinks.
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2011-02-10 2-07-22-

Sorry. Retracted! Hope nobody got in a tizzy over it.
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    2011-02-11 19-31-00

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    2011-02-13 3-24-18-

    it should be liked or disliked as much as any other show. i enjoy it. some people don't feel like their "identity" is represented well, but it'd be impossible to display each and every type of person. i don't relate to any character, but it's still entertaining. plus, how many of us even live the hollywood lifestyle like the characters do? probably not many. but who cares. it's just a show.
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    2011-02-24 1-46-47-

    Personally I had never seen it but then recently saw several episodes and the sex scenes look like rape scenes rather then sensual experiences.
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    2011-02-28 13-45-23

    it's kind of badly written and stereotypical. I've rarely watched it. But I would like to see Shane and Jenny end up together. Equally disliked and probably for the same reasons would be Will and Grace. Gay men hate that show. Though it's redeemed a little by Karen Walker The least stereotypical gay/bi characters I've seen on TV would be Willow from Buffy and Julian from the Shield.
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    2011-03-04 21-11-43

    it's a soap opera...no more, no less IMO. I don't connect with any character on that show anymore than I did with Melrose Place or Dallas. It's a form of entertainment. The thing I do like is that (finally!) straight actors are falling over themselves to play lesbian characters - 10 years ago it was the curse of death for an actor to play a lesbian character and now you have straight women wanting to play lesbians...I think that's progress despite the fact that the plot and characters are boring and empty. It was cool to see the fist...eh, first season and I thought/hoped there was a chance I would grow to like it but...
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    2011-03-07 4-48-03-

    What I don't like about this show is that it seems to glorify bad behaviour. If they were straight I'd find it offensive.
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    2011-04-18 9-04-32-

    What about/any thoughts on... Commander In Chief (with Geena Davis)? I was sad that show got cancelled, partly (IMHO) due to lack of support-- which surprised me. It seemed the "Sistren" prefered the fantasy/soap opera-type drama, but interestingly, at least the premise of a woman president is a real possibility... Granted, C-I-C had NO lesbian theme-- it was still pioneering for women... Anyone? Hands? Hands?
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    2011-04-26 16-07-38

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    2011-06-12 1-28-23-

    Hey! Nice to see you back :) I've never seen CIC, but now I'm sorry I missed it. Maybe I can rent it.
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    2011-07-24 16-17-47

    i love the L word. then again i watch so many tv shows.. it's not the lesbian appeal completely. it could be better. but what is the "perfect lesbian show"? at least is has some varieties of characters, it doesn't have to have someone "just like the viewer".
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    2011-09-01 23-37-33

    Bad writing Repugnant characterization Ridiculous story lines Annoying characters Self-indulgent, self congratulating executives YUCK
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    2011-10-21 10-52-58

    so your basic soap opera
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    2012-01-09 5-44-09-

    HA ! Yes, with boobies... to lure us in and then........WHAM !! Reality sets in and its not such a pretty picture anymore. ;-( I was more into Queer as Folk, even with all the penises. Way better music !!
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    2012-01-19 21-59-32

    what bugs me the most and ultimately turned me off the show is that all the women are skinny femme. Even the FTM character seemed girly to me. That's about where I stopped watching, so I have no idea if ze started to grow facial hair later on in the game. My first reaction after watching the first few episodes are "Where are the butch women???" The butches were invisible in Queer as Folk too. It's not about trying to represent every type of queer woman; for me, in order to identify with it I need to see an accurate representation of my community, and the femmes are the exception in my town, not the rule. Maybe it's different in LA, I wouldn't know. Whatever, I lost interest. It started pissing me off when I saw an advertisement for it which had all the characters naked, and arranged together such that their naughty bits were just barely hidden. Let's FURTHER the objectification of lesbians, shall we? I do like renting dvd series so I may end up watching the third season at some point, just to fill in the parts I missed. It'd be like House: watch it once to satisfy my curiosity. Now Bestar Galactica - THERE's a lesbian character I can get behind! (Oh yeah, Starbuck's *not* queer. Whatever.)
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    2012-03-22 19-27-29

    Totally agree- But I guess Shane was supposed to be "butch". The show is about as representative of dykes as Tila Tequilas show is (and now it turns out she has, and has had for a long time, a bf and isn't even bi).
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    2012-05-02 22-00-28

    Thing is, Shane's character is andro not butch, and she's still really thin. People are scared of putting butch women in front of the camera as real people with strength, compassion, wit and intrigue. If a butch appears on any show at all, it's usually as a punchline (look, there's a x footer!) In QAF Dusty was the only butch character with more thanlines, and she was giving birth to babies and made a few brief appearances. QAF SPOLIER ALERT! Oh yeah, and guess who was theto die? They killed off thebutch character! It's right on par with how other minorities are represented. Unloading a truck in the background, and completely disposable. It's totally unfair! In my community, butch women are out and proud! They're leaders of the community and HIGHLY visible!!
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    2012-05-11 5-10-02-

    shane andro? hmmm...how about soft-butch? In a stick thin model looking kind of way? what is andro exactly anyway? I thought the character who was going FTM was andro(forget her name) but she was Jenny's gf for awhile.
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    2012-06-23 12-08-33

    FTM is FTM, and andro is different from butch or soft butch. Androgynous describes someone who looks neither male nor female, but who could pass as either. Andro people are often willowy in physique, because bulk on bodies often give away a person's born gender and tip the scalesway or another. For instance, I've seen butch women with enormous breasts, but they are still very masculine women, despite the female breasts. She could still be tough and muscular, bulky and in butch duds like a suit or a cut off tee, but she's not necessarily gender-bending. Andro describes someone who blurs the lines, and was born blurring the lines. Some people cultivate an andro look, like the Cliks. The band leader's a transman, and the band members cultivate an andro look, although a couple of them make a point to wear a pink belt or a bra to tip the scales of gender ambiguity. Anyway, I described "Shane" as andro because her character doesn't dress towards a particular gender, but goes neutral. When I think "butch" or "soft-butch" I see a woman with some type of masculine edge. I don't see a masculine edge in Shane, merely the absence of a feminine edge. There are all kinds of blurred lines. Andros can be butch too. Such things are open to interpretation. I'd consider myself to be a soft butch at the moment. I've been moving away from girly things; I don't even bother with makeup and my short pixie has evolved into a buzz. A year ago I described myself as a tom-boyish femme. Things are constantly shifting. :) So basiy, this is just my current interpretation; don't take my word for it.
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